Interview Doctrine: Rap Materialism and Racial Humility.

Jay interviews Dan Charnas, in an interview that touches on some of the points that came up in our sprawling conversation about Asher Roth the other day.

12 thoughts on “Interview Doctrine: Rap Materialism and Racial Humility.

  1. FilthyGrandeur May 14, 2009 at 11:32 am Reply

    this is an excellent interview. asher roth made a serious mistake pinning “greed” to black rappers…it’s the genre reflecting societal ideals, not a race thing. also, black rappers have no responsibility to take care of people in Africa–if they choose to be charitable, fine, if not then fine; it’s not about obligation because of their race. on a related note, does any one know what sorts of charitable acts asher roth has engaged in, if any? just curious.

    • G.D. May 14, 2009 at 11:33 am Reply

      Well, for starters, he has given me a headache.

      • FilthyGrandeur May 14, 2009 at 11:35 am Reply

        ha. i don’t know if that counts as charitable. charitable would be for him to shut the fuck up.

  2. shani-o May 14, 2009 at 12:40 pm Reply

    So on one hand, Charmas is saying that white rappers need to have racial humility to succeed, but on the other, he’s saying that the music is ultimately what matters? Which is it? And what does it mean if Roth (or others like him) can succeed without having humility and respecting those who came before? (And I don’t mean the Weezys and Jeezys, but the founders of hip hop and those who love the art form — not just the money that comes with it.)

    • Molly May 14, 2009 at 12:53 pm Reply

      I watched the video twice and I did not hear him say that white rappers need racial humility *to succeed*, only that without racial humility, people feel entitled to say and do things that are disrespectful. Charmas is saying that if Roth’s vision is sincere, and his music is genuine, then he will have staying power in the industry, whether or not his vision steps on other’s toes.

      • shani-o May 14, 2009 at 12:55 pm Reply

        Mk, I gotcha.

      • Molly May 14, 2009 at 12:58 pm Reply

        I want to add also that I think sincerity, particularly creative sincerity, gives you awareness and insight that insincerity that comes from entitlement does not. I may be reading too much into the interview, but I think Charmas, as someone who has been in a creative industry for many years, understands that. I imagine that he assumes a certain insincerity that comes with Roth’s lack of racial humility–that Roth’s brand of blindness is part of the entitlement package…

    • Lauren May 16, 2009 at 2:14 pm Reply

      I took the “the music is what matters” as a kind of dig on Roth’s music. It’s clear they don’t think much of him or his music.

  3. ladyfresshh May 14, 2009 at 2:25 pm Reply

    Great follow up, very much appreciated.

  4. universeexpanding May 14, 2009 at 6:35 pm Reply

    I know this may come off as nitpicky but how y’all gon’ watch the video and misspell homeboy’s name in the post and all through the comments? CharNas.

    • Molly May 15, 2009 at 10:20 am Reply

      LOL…my bad

  5. Angela May 14, 2009 at 8:06 pm Reply

    I think this interview was excellent. I’m really glad he touched on the fact that Roth’s whole “brand” exhibits his naivete about hip hop music as an art for in general. From the “African rappers” comment to his constant yapping about how rappers never made music that white kids in the ‘burbs could relate to, it all shows a lack of knowledge of the breadth of hip hop music and artists.

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